Marcion

This is a repost of an earlier blog as I find it fitting on this Friday the 13th 2023.

Let me say, because a Jihad was declared for today, that if they target all the usual non-important people and places, say a guineafowl farm in Alabama, then you can reasonably deduce they are fake and or psyops. It’s been over 100 years and no one has it in them to stand up for the Palestinians in any way that makes a significant difference and I include the gods in that assessment. The situation is hopelessly depressing and more fake terrorist psyops only add to the anomie. Walter Veith, although I disagree with his religious views, has done extensive research on the creation of Islam and proved sufficiently enough to me that it was a creation of the RCC and any Marcionite knows what that means: another Hebrew project of divide and conquer. Do your own research.

HERE is a link to Marcion’s writing. The very first sentence teaches DOCETISM. This is an incorrect understanding of Marcion on my part. They say he descended from heaven in a human body (me bad). A link HERE on this point. Even still the whole story of Christmas was more Jewish fiction–I’ve stated previously that the Jews are masters of the genre and I offer Hollywood as evidence.

In fact, the story of Christmas is simply more *transfer of Egyptian astrotheology as the Three Kings are Orion’s Belt (Osiris) who pointed the way to Isis (Sirius) as the star appeared on the horizon. Peter, who betrayed Paul in ideology, became PTAH (or Ptah became Peter)., and that is why the Hebrew Egyptians put the obelisk in St. PTAH’s Square.

The Pre-Nicene Christianity channel covers tons of ground on Marcion.

I’d make the point again about the critique of Gnostics being elitist. Every single epistle written in that era was written by societal elitists because it’s only they who could read and write to the degree necessary to do so. So it’s an absurd and baseless attack.

I’ve previously described myself as an Agnostic Gnostic and that is because I side with KANT on most issues and no more so than how important reason is. I also think that the Pleroma is off-limits to humans and that fits quite well with his noumena. Although I think the Aeons can project into this place they never really want to come here because of how disgusting it is–from the perspective of the Pleroma. I’ll be doing some posts on anti-natalism soon. And when it comes to morality I sit squarely in the Categorical Imperative camp. So there are things humans can’t know but we can know how to act in the world. And for the most part under Jewish hegemony of nations, we are all acting dismally from a healthy spiritual point of view. Did I just dis Hegel? lol

For me, Marcion cleared ALL the fog when it comes to the absurdity of anything to do with the words Judeo-Christian. An impossibility, but I still have many areas of inquiry left unanswered, hence my use of the word agnostic within that specific context.

My quarrel with Marcionism. A truly GOOD GOD with absolutely no evil within its own being would not have partaken in the death of the cross as described as a remedy for sin. So the crucifixion doesn’t mean what they say it means. And a truly GOOD GOD’s only possible outcome when it comes to soteriology is universalism. Everyone would HAVE to be redeemed eventually under this notion of God.

A Friday the 13th update on my What We Are Asked To Believe (see the end of the post)…

A comment from a YouTuber that hits the nail on the head. I should say I’m more quasi-Marcion than Neo but Marcion is the entrance to any sane understanding of Abrahamic religions.

@christopherheath8131
7 months ago
Interesting, but two corrections: First, Marcion did not view the Jewish God as evil or bad, but as “just”: An eye for an eye. But justice is of course the opposite of mercy, and so the Christian God could not be the same. Second, the claim that Marcion altered the scriptures of Paul or Luke is a claim of his enemies, but it is difficult to believe: Marcion was faithful to the scriptures. Only because he believed the Old Testament to be true (for its believers) could he come to the conclusion that it could not be reconciled with the Christian faith. Had he been able to dismiss the Old Testament as a lot of funky stories, he might have come to a different conclusion {ANDREW HERE: THIS IS MY VIEW}…So why should Marcion change any text by Paul or Luke? Perhaps it was he who had the original letters of Paul and on this basis argued his belief that the God of the New Testament was merciful (rather than just), and that this God of the New Testament was removed from Genesis in that only a God who was not involved in earthly belongings could be truly altruistic and have pity in what he had not created. Perhaps it was his enemies (Tertullian etc.) who changed the scriptures of Paul to serve their needs in arguing against Marcion. After all, for the acceptance of Christianity, it was vital that this faith could be traced back in the scriptures (Josef being a descendant of David, etc.). Why should Marcion change Paul? Macron’s belief that the New Testament (and thus the God of the New Testament) was different from the God of the Old Testament did not originate from any anti-Jewish feelings. Marcion simply concluded that a God who delivered when being so asked (Eliah and the rainmaking), and who allowed enemies of the faith to be slaughtered (the same Eliah who had praised God as being merciful and patient) could not be reconciled with the message of Jesus as taught by Paul. Paul’s letters formed Marcion’s beliefs rather than the other way around. But Marcion’s belief comes with a heavy price: If God is (only) the knowledge of His assistance, He cannot get involved in earthly doings, He is not responsible for the good or bad that is happening, and if God is mercy, there is no hell, either. Changing scripture to arrive at such probably far-fetched conclusions looks unlikely: Rather Marcion’s faith derived from the scriptures that he had: Perhaps only Paul’s letters. Perhaps it was he who wrote the first Gospel based thereupon.

NOTE*: it’s 100% dishonest to say that Egyptian spirituality is a satanic thieving of the truth of Judaism. The Egyptian language predates the Hebrew/Phoenician by hundreds of years if not a thousand. There is zero evidence that the Hebrew language predated the Egyptian. This quarrel is relevant to the claims of those who say Marcion was the linguistic adulterer. No chance, in reality, it was the Ebionites (James especially) who perverted the writings of Paul. I’ve said in other blogs that it could be more than a coincidence that the paleo-Hebrew language occurred shortly after the 18th dynasty. This makes sense if Moses was Akhenaten. But what is certain is that it’s 100% impossible for Moses to have written the Torah in Hebrew as dated in our Bibles.

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In some way, you could label me a Neo-Marcionite and I wouldn’t be too upset about it.

I’ll start this one off with something I don’t think Marcion addressed: Physics. If we look at modern physics today, and the people who promote data from their studies in this arena, we would have to conclude: Heliocentrism and the likelihood that we exist via a cosmic fluke–this is the overwhelming consensus over at least 100 years of scientific inquiry. So there is an immediate disconnect with the claims of the Torah.

My studies as a layperson suggest that the overwhelming consensus on the Torah’s cosmology is that it presents some type of stationary-flat-earth model. So there are serious conflicting claims even within the parameters of something we have reasonable access to. If we can’t even agree on things we can see then how much more problematic is the arena of supernaturalism?

2023: HERE is a link from the Marcionite top brass that says the earth is stationary. My thoughts on that: no one who has ever lived has experienced a moving earth as described by heliocentrism. The only way I could know for sure though is to be taken up into the atmosphere high enough to see for myself without any distortion of a glass lens. Because I can’t do that I remain agnostic on the shape of the earth. I would say, however, that there seems to be no god/s willing to end the dispute.

Marcion wasn’t a homeless gypsy. Any epistles written in that era were written by societal elites and Marcion was no exception. This means he likely would have had access to most of the cosmological claims of that era from the Greek and Egyptian Schools and likely even from the Vedas. It’s odd to me that he didn’t address this issue so I will. We can assume he rejected Democritus and ‘the atoms in the void’ materialism. It’s also likely he would have sided with Plato over Aristotle. But did he know about Samkhya and the ‘eternal existence’ theory of the universe? Or, did he think there was a beginning? This was likely his view but it’s also likely he viewed TWO ideas within this inquiry: the beginning of the ‘demiurgic construct’ as described in Genesis, and whatever existence his version of Christ’s Father has which precedes the creation account in Genesis. See The Apocryphon Of John.

And…NO! None of these quarrels have been resolved! See the science site of Miles Mathis for another wrench in the wheel! As a Neo-Marcionite I’m adding cosmology to the list of incongruities that is the bloody mess of the abrahamic traditions. But to be fair they haven’t fared much better than the East with the Vedas. Some of the earliest schools were materialist and atheistic and rivaled Hume’s skepticism. It seems no one on earth has been able to solve any of these quarrels and to my thinking that screams ‘Deceptive Demiurge’ although I concede the possibility of fluke random materialism–it’s simply not my view. I think the Demiurge IS the material universe and that its mind is instantiated within it via what we call Panpsychism. And when someone has a psychedelic experience this is what they are accessing: another realm of the demiurgic mind. But this is not the Mind Of Christ that preceded this existence.

I guess what I’m suggesting, to the degree that Marcion wasn’t another intelligence spook of the money masters, is that it’s consistent that physics would be in dispute and not made overwhelmingly clear and concise by a not-so-good demiurge. And then there is the Historicity problem.

No clear and obvious physical evidence for most of the major characters in the Bible and that’s besides the issue of the extraordinarily questionable moral character of most of these actors. If Solomon was WISE he only would have had one wife! But what’s another quibble, eh? And, with all my studies, one of the only ideas that fits the timeline of Jesus is the Docetist view–that he only appeared human. In my view, there was a cosmic drama played out in that era between Christ and Yaldabaoth. Books like The Book Of Judas, allude to it. But the story as it’s written in the Gospels is largely the fiction of elite Hebrew/Roman families like The Flavians who had every reason to twist those events into the story that fit their agenda: make Jesus Jewish and the Son of an (Evil) Yahweh, and make it so everyone has to submit to their politics under the threat of eternal punishment. History proves it was a pretty effective gambit.

I’m totally okay with the idea that reason and logic have epistemological limitations and I’m totally okay with a sincere simple faith in God. But that simple faith can’t include the blatant irrationalisms that exist in some of the Abrahamic traditions. Yahweh’s personal murder count is in the neighborhood of about 2.5 million! Eternal damnation for one finite life mistake is entirely insane! Good parents don’t choose favorites among their siblings as a means of teaching life lessons–only a lousy parent would do such a thing.

The above are some of my additions to Marcion’s stream of spirituality. HERE is a link to his direct writings and HERE and HERE are some previous thoughts on Marcionism.

Oh, yes…I’m forcing myself to read, The Protocols Of The Dumb Elders Of Zion. I wonder what Marcion would have thought about it? The mainstream says it’s fiction, of course, but it’s very strange fiction, indeed, when fiction comes true. On Conspiracy Lane I often quip that Judaism isn’t a conspiracy. Please note, also, that it’s these apparent ‘good guys’ who did (and will do?) all the murdering of the Marcionites and Gnostics.